I started writing this paper years ago. I never got it
completed because its direction kept changing. So long ago, that I had to
change the title from GLBT to LGBT. Since the recent Supreme Court decision to
go anti-constitutional, anti-God and anti-nature, and declare that the union of
two people of the same sex can be called marriage anywhere in the United States
Many LGBT people think that they are hated by Christians
and that Christians think they are going to Hell. The going to Hell part is true, but no more
than any other person. Anybody who
rejects the salvation of Christ is going to Hell; LGBT folks don’t have a
special direct path. A real Christian,
not a "Christian in name only", has love in their heart for LGBT
people as they do for everyone else. That is why a Christian will present the
plan of salvation to all people, including LGBT people. This is an act of love and concern; not a
form of condemnation or rejection.
I can almost understand the homosexual attraction. I truly love my Dads, grand dads, brother in
laws, my sons and have had loving relationships with other men in my life. These are similar to the love I have for my
sister and my sisters in law. These are
not sexual inclinations, but I can see how even those relationships, apart from
the guidance of the Lord, could become distorted and perverted. It is the spirit of deception, a demonic
influence, through lust or yearning for love or a sexual relationship, mistakes
one feeling for another. It is the
demonic spirit of confusion that makes people fall under this misconception.
For this reason, we should not feel any differently towards LGBT people than we
do for someone with heart trouble or cancer.
There really are spirits (both good and evil) controlling
everything that happens in the world. If
you don’t have the Spirit of God to guide you, you will be subject to all of
the other spirits that want to destroy you. There is a spirit of heaviness
which is depression. The spirit of
religiosity, which is the spirit of control, which is witchcraft. There is the spirit of homosexuality which is
a subdivision of the spirit if confusion.
Homosexuals are not a third class of God’s creation. There is proof that God did not "make
them that way". The only people God created, in His image, were Adam and
Eve. One man and one woman. When God decided He needed to "start
over", He had four men, married to four women, go into the Ark kingdom
of God
“Marriage
is the union of a man and a woman for the purpose of establishing a
family. Since our gay population would
like to have, and deserve the same benefits as a married couple, lets figure
out what to call it and establish it.
Airplanes and cars are not the same, but are both used for
transportation. Why can’t our esteemed
politicians come up with a plan for a gay union and end all the useless
fighting.”[1]
Many times groups bring on condemnation from other people
for getting “in your face”. Examples of
the “in your face” attitude are as follows – 1. Adoption of the rainbow to
represent the movement, when in reality the rainbow is God’s sign that He will
never end all life on earth by flood again. 2. The effort to usurp the design
of marriage. Marriage was designed by
God to be opposite sex partners. Anything other than that is not marriage. 3. The disgusting displays of sin and
vulgarity in public. 4. Attempts to get
others to accept and celebrate, or participate in the sinners lifestyle -
despite their moral and religious values.
LGBT stands for a combined movement of Gays, Lesbians,
Bisexuals and Transgender advocates. All of these groups used to be lumped
together under the mantle of homosexuality.
This LGBT community is exclusive in that it has separated itself from
the heterosexual community. LGBT is
essentially a political movement that promotes the ‘gay agenda’. There are several theories as to why people
are Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and or Transvestites. All, however, are perversions and are in
opposition to the sexual systems set up by the Creator of the universe. The
Lord tells us we should love everyone, as He does, regardless of differences
like LGBT people.
There is a family system, and sexual
system, that was set up by the Creator of the universe. Without a belief in God and His creation,
this system has no value to those who do not believe in Him. The Bible (Word of God) is the guide for us
to know what is best for us, and to assure that we live under the blessings of
God. Any joining together of persons
which is not conducted in the name and under the auspices of God is not a
marriage but another kind of union, such as a civil union. Any joining of persons in a contract, other
than that approved by God, is therefore not a marriage. An automobile driver’s license and a truck
drivers license are similar, but not the same.
The ‘gay agenda’ today is pushing for legalization of same gender marriage. Traditionally, throughout history, opposite gender marriage had been the definition of what makes up the marriage covenant. There have been variations of this opposite gender system, such as multiple marriage partners. The basic, unchanging, fact of the marriage system has been the opposite gender joining to establish a ‘family’. The family has been, and remains to be, the center of civilization for procreation and propagation of the human race. “Propitiation is the act of appeasing or making well disposed (from Latin propitiāre, to appease, from propitius, gracious), especially a deity, thus incurring divine favor or avoiding Divine retribution.”[2]
Plato, in his “Symposium” describes homosexual love as the
highest kind. It is believed the Greek
philosophers were influential in the heresy of the New Greek Translations of
the Bible for homosexual reasons. The practice of homosexuality is taught against in
the Bible as an abomination, because it perverts the laws of nature and is self
centered rather than God centered. One
must reject God, in order to lead a self centered life. Greek philosophy is steeped in homosexuality. There has to be an original before there can
be an imitation. Male – female marriage
is the original and same sex marriage is the imitation. The imitation is never to be confused with
the original and is therefore never to be condoned.
Aside from man with man and woman with woman, there are
many other sexual liaisons spoken against in the Bible: father with daughter,
brother with sister, son with mother, man with mother in law, man with aunt,
unmarried couples, sex with someone other than your spouse, and sex with
animals.
I have read “Coming
out to Ourselves, Admitting, Accepting, and EMBRACING Who We Truly Are” by
Rev. Jerry D. Troyer. Reverend Troyer
refers to, on page 2, “Given the church’s teaching of absolute damnation…and
the fear of not being loved” as creating fear and self hatred within
himself. He had been involved from his
youth in the Lutheran church and school system which in those days was a very
condemning denomination. Some
denominations can be very condemning and is the reason we need to look beyond a
denominational bent and seek a truly personal relationship with the Lord. My great grandfather was a pastor in the
German Evangelical Reformed Church which had broken off from the Lutherans
because the Lutherans were too liberal; and that was in the eighteen
hundreds. Rev. Jerry states in his book
that healing is a process and not an event.
I believe that true healing is an event that initiates the healing
process. That event would be the
acceptance of the Creator of the Universe as your Lord and Savior.
The book seems to be centered on condemnation from others,
violation of trust by others, and abandonment by others as the reasoning behind
dependence on self instead of the true peace and acceptance of the Lord. In other words, according to his thesis, you
can’t depend on anyone or anything but yourself. The book shifts the power source of living
from God to self. If salvation is of
self, there is no need for God. On the
other hand, forgiveness comes from God.
No amount of self forgiveness toward self or others can take the place
of the peace in God Almighty.
The main problem with the LGBT lifestyle seems to be that
it becomes the all in all of life rather than simply a part of life such as in
the straight world. Things are viewed
through a veil of being gay instead of a realistic overall view of life. Through self imposed guilt and faux
Christians, the LGBT community rejects God because they have been brainwashed
into believing that God hates them because of their sin. How presumptuous is it to believe your sin is
greater or more important than anyone else’s?
No one misses out on Heaven because of their particular sin, regardless
of what that sin, or sins, are. One
misses out on Heaven because of the rejection of the Christ; and that alone,
PERIOD. “But we have to make it OK.”[3]
“Your life means what you say it means.”[4]
This is the looking for love in all the wrong places state of mind. Proverbs 14:12 says: There is a way that
seems right to a man, but its end is the way of death. Proverbs 21:2 says: All a mans ways seem
right to him, but the Lord examines the heart.
Abandonment and rejection seem to be at the forefront of
the book. A life filled with disappointment with the responses of others seems
to lead to an increased dependence on self.
Jesus, on the other hand, promised that He would never leave us, forsake
us, or abandon us. I have found this to
be true in my life, and seen it in others: I recommend it highly. The only stipulation is that you trust and
obey Him. Through whatever trials I have
experienced, I have never been alone since I accepted Him as Lord. The strength of the Lord is my strength and
it can be yours. I have walked with the
Lord for forty nine of my seventy two years, and He has been both my backbone
and my mindset. My sins may be the same
or different than yours, but that doesn’t matter anymore. I am now seen by the Father through a veil of
the blood of Jesus and have the indwelling Holy Spirit as my companion. My sins have been sent as far as the east is
from the west in the same way He will do with yours.
A bisexual woman wrote the following - "As a bisexual,
I obviously don't believe anything is wrong with being gay or bi or trisexual
(try anything). I further don't believe in hell. I believe we go to another
dimension where we bathe in true love of god and our soul group, review our
past lives and plan with our group who will play what roles in our next
incarnation. We learn how our actions affected people in the recent life we had
here, and choose what lessons we will learn next time. There is no judgment in
this dimension, only understanding love, with zero punishment. 'To understand
all is to forgive all' and I believe god gets who we are and loves us
unconditionally.
The concept of consequence is built on good and bad, I
think. I don't believe in bad or devil or evil. I don't believe in judgments
that things are better than other things. I guess there are consequences from
what we choose while we are here, but not punishment on the other side. I do
believe that good can be found in everything, if you can raise your perspective
high enough to see the big picture."
A
recent conversation initiated on Facebook by a gay man went as follows:
Gay man
hi rick - with a good sense
of humor....here's something to ponder.
together in equality.....
together in equality.....
You can marry her. Any
questions?
Gay man
marry who?
Michelle Bachman - isn't that
what you were asking?
Gay man
absolutely amaaaaaaaaaaaazing
rick - you're too damn funny (I think) michelle is ALREADY MARRIED....what are
you advocating POLYGAMY???? so very
biblical.....soloman had 600 wives...obviously they have re-defined marriage
since then!!!
you may want to re-read the
toon - I am asking to marry the GAY man that I love. in fact, I have and we are
legally married in the state of CA. (together for over 17 yrs) and our ________
was the BEST WOMAN at our wedding!!!
If you read farther; it was
those wives that got him in trouble with God. Bathsheba was married also. All
you have to do is send Mr. Bachman in the heat of the battle.
Gay man
I prefer another book of
FAIRY TALES...OZ has much more personal/universal truth and inspiration for
me!!!
Everyone to their own taste,
said the old lady as she kissed the cow. As the momma skunk said - let us spray.
If you are right, neither one of us has anything to worry about. If I'm right,
we will know for sure one day.
Gay man
or if you find me over that
rainbow wearing my ruby slippers - that's something I would most sing about!!!
- here's to your "personal rainbow" rick - it's been fun kibitzing
back and forth!!!
Same here. Why would you wear
Ruby's slippers?
Gay man
the burning question/answer
to that is....WHY NOT!!!!!
Bubbles, pretty bubbles,
pretty bubbles in the air.
Gay man
pretty bubbles???? - sounds
RATHER GAY rick - unless you mean glinda's means of travel.
pretty bubbles was on old
children's song
I used to be happy and gay,
but now because of you guys, I have to be satisfied with just being happy.
Today’s signs have a different meaning also. Keep off the grass means something
totally different. Be well my friend, and stay thirsty (reference to a beer add
on TV).
Gay man
oh WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH rick -
don't blame "us" - the "gay-word" originated culturally in
the 1930's and just stuck around. many words in the dictionary have more than
one meaning - you can use the word GAY anytime you choose much like your
(ill)logic that gays can get married. I am HAPPY and GAY....you can be too!!!
OK, say for instance, you
wanted to marry ____(female name). Is there anything that could stop you? You
have the EXACT same rights to marry as anyone else.
Gay man
rick your attempt at logic is
F___ING INSANE!!! your disrespect for the sanctity of marriage is not only
IGNORANT but OFFENSIVE to those who cherish who they WANT to marry. asking a
CLOSE-MINDED christian to keep it open has proven to be impossible.
I wish ___ had a much more
supportive and loving brother!!!
I AM DONE WITH THIS
CONVERSATION......DONE!!!
As you may know; foul
language and name calling are the last resort of a fool. It's too bad that’s
how you see yourself.
Gay man
what part of DONE don't you
understand!!!....I AM DONE HERE!!!
A man of your word I
see.(this was in reference to his first DONE)
Apparently, during the conversation, he had lost the "good
sense of humor" he espoused at the beginning. This man has come to know
which of us was right; he died shortly after this conversation.
In to the reactions I received, about this attempt to reach
the lost; I have come to the realization that the powers of darkness are
stronger than I had imagined. For that reason I have included the conversations
that I had not intended to include. It
is obvious that homosexuals have turned their desires into their religion. Satan has, over the years, used the
counterfeit in his attempt to distort the Word of God, and to draw people away
from the true Word of God. I had not
known that homosexuality was indeed at least comparable to a religion, which
would account for the fervent adherence to those beliefs. Perhaps when we pray for the salvation of the
LGBT people, we should refer to Matthew 17:21 as a guide (Howbeit this kind
goeth not out but by prayer and fasting).
We are not in a battle against flesh and blood, but against the
principalities and powers of the devil. If
we are successful, in our attempts to help bring gay people into a personal
relationship with Jesus and the family of God, they will be grateful when they
pass on to eternal life. The ones we are
not able to reach are not our responsibility.
We must also take into account that should a gay person became a Born
Again Christian, in all probability they will be rejected by the community in
which they have been comfortable. This
possible rejection might be at least one of the primary reasons they reject even
a discussion about what we wish to present.
What we Christians need to realize is that it is the message that is
being rejected, and not you personally. What we also need to realize, is that
it is our calling to present the message of salvation to them and that it is
not our job to judge, condemn, or attempt to change them. Only the Holy Spirit
can bring a person under the conviction of sin, and therefore to repentance.
I have known of people who were delivered out of the
lifestyle: some were delivered by the
casting out of a demon, through counseling, or simply realization of their
deviation from the norm of nature. Not
long ago, homosexuality was considered a mental disorder, whereas recently it
has been viewed (adopted by gays) as a birth defect.
The more I learn about the Gay lifestyle and agenda, the
more I realize that their mindset is different than the vast majority of people
in the world. Their world view is based
around their sexual orientation, whereas the normal person’s world is based on
God, family and/or accomplishment. They separate themselves from most of
humanity, as many ethnic groups do, in order to reinforce their belief
system. It is not wrong to congregate
with people of like mind; however, it does give one an exaggerated view of
their importance on the world stage. A
good example of this self imposed form of separation, and constant support of
their ideals, would be those involved with the American Nazi party. These types of groups will read into what you
say, what they think you mean, rather than what you actually say. Many would say they represent a classic case
of paranoia.
The main thing we need to realize is that when you present
the message of salvation to a member of the LGBT community, or anyone else for
that matter, you may not be the one who can have a positive effect by your
witness; but that you have planted a seed (if you have done it with love). Someone else may be able to fertilize the
seed you planted. We must also realize
that not everyone will be saved. There are times when we need to shake off the
dust from our feet (Mark 6:11) and/or let our peace return to us (Matthew
10:13). There are those who are beyond
redemption: not because it is impossible for God, but rather it is impossible
for them to receive what God offers. The essential question that needs to be
asked by the homosexual is; is their own pride and prejudice worth their
destiny of eternal damnation.
"We recently received an
email here at WallBuilders, asking where in scripture that Jesus said gay
marriage is wrong. We thought we'd share the answer with everybody, in case
anybody else out there is interested about this. The answer is Matthew 19:4-5,
in which Jesus says that marriage is the lifelong union of one man and one
woman. Period. Jesus doesn't say one man and one man, or one woman and one
woman, or two and one of any grouping, but only one man and one woman. Period.
Furthermore, since God specifically says that homosexuality is wrong (1 Timothy
1:9-11, Leviticus 20:13, 1 Kings 14:24, Romans 1:26-27, etc.), it is illogical
that he would support a "marriage" centered around sexual behavior
that He Himself disapprobates, just as he also disapprobates adultery and
fornication -- in fact, any sexual relations outside of one man and one woman
in a lifelong union."[5]
If this article has offended you; I urge you to seek the knowledge of God, which is the
beginning of wisdom…perhaps you need to do some inner searching for the
spirit which God created in you. Are you
upset because you are sure your lifestyle is unacceptable to the one true and
living God or are you condemned by your inner self because you are in rebellion
against the God who created you? To put
things bluntly; a person doesn’t go to Hell for being queer, a person goes to Hell
for non acceptance of the salvation available through Jesus. That same person who would go to Hell for non
acceptance can go to heaven, if they do accept the free gift of Jesus. If you have the desire, I urge you, in love,
to read John 3:16 and Romans 10:9. Jesus
suffered and died for you; did He waste His time? If God doesn’t exist, and the Bible is a lie,
there is no reason to search for Him. If
you are convinced you are descended from the primordial slime, rather than a
creation of God, this paper will mean nothing.
I urge you to consider the difference, with an open heart.
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